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The creator of LLVM and Swift discusses the structural problems in AI compute and how his new language, Mojo, is designed to solve them.
Key Takeaways:
The current state of AI development is defined by a fundamental structural problem. The most advanced work in low-level code generation for new hardware (GPUs, TPUs, ASICs) is done by the hardware companies themselves—NVIDIA, AMD, Google, etc. Their primary incentive is to optimize for their own specific hardware roadmaps, not to create a unified, portable software ecosystem.
This has resulted in a fragmented mess of incompatible software stacks: CUDA, ROCm, XLA, and countless others. High-level frameworks like PyTorch are forced to act as complex abstraction layers, desperately trying to sew these disparate systems together. This creates a "leaky abstraction," where developers are inevitably forced to debug deep, unfamiliar stacks to achieve performance or fix problems.
The core issue is that there is no equivalent of LLVM for the AI accelerator world—no open, portable compiler infrastructure that all vendors can build upon. This lack of a common foundation forces everyone to reinvent the wheel, locking software to specific hardware and stifling innovation.
Given this problem, why create an entirely new language? Existing options all have significant drawbacks for this domain:
Furthermore, the hardware itself is evolving at a breakneck pace. New matrix multiplication units, varied warp sizes, and exotic data types (like 4-bit or 1.2-bit floating point) are constantly emerging. Most general-purpose languages aren't even aware these concepts exist, making them a poor fit for expressing these new paradigms.
Mojo is designed to bridge this gap. Its first principle is to be a member of the Python family. It embraces Python syntax and ethos to ensure it feels familiar to the vast AI/ML community that already thrives on Python. This drastically reduces the barrier to entry compared to a language with a completely new syntax.
However, it diverges from Python where necessary to provide the performance and control required for systems programming:
Mojo is the core of a larger technology stack being built by Modular to solve the AI infrastructure problem:
The business model isn't to sell Mojo itself, but to offer an enterprise-grade platform that simplifies the immense complexity of managing large-scale AI inference and training workloads across diverse, ever-changing hardware.
Lattner emphasizes a pragmatic, utility-driven approach to language design. The goal isn't academic novelty but solving real engineering problems. Mojo is being built with a keen awareness of the pitfalls of language design, such as featurism and unnecessary complexity.
In the near term, Mojo's primary value is as a systems language for performance-critical code. It is positioned as the best way to extend Python: developers can seamlessly move performance bottlenecks from Python into Mojo files within the same project, gaining massive speedups on CPUs and GPUs without the hassle of C++ bindings or a complex FFI.
Looking ahead, the roadmap includes adding more features like classes to make it feel even more Pythonic, with the long-term vision of Mojo evolving into a top-to-bottom applications language and a potential successor to Python for high-performance computing, while always maintaining deep interoperability with the existing Python ecosystem.